<p>Anthony, Mike, and Karthik try to figure out the future of plastics recycling, industrial policy, and why policy is currently, you know, like this.&nbsp;</p>

How can the energy transition cross the scale-up valley of death?

The world needs more and better innovation to solve climate, waste, and health problems in an increasingly tumultuous and uncertain world - not just the latest app, gadget, or software, but real deeptech innovation in energy, manufacturing, agrifood, resources, and more. In this podcast sustainable innovation experts Anthony Schiavo, Mike Holman, Karthik Subramanian, Amy Huras, and Alina Strugut from Lux Research analyze the latest news and interview world leading experts to navigate the technological, economic, political, and social trends that will determine what innovations succeed or fail. &nbsp;The opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests, and do not reflect the views of Lux Research.&nbsp;