We joined Ace McCarleton of Vermont-based New Frameworks to talk about their panelized building innovations for the housing marketplace. New Frameworks practices high performance natural building towards the construction of climate justice and regeneration. Innovation is expressed in their home construction products and processes, their sourcing of materials, for sure. But it's also in their employee-ownership model, their steadfast dedication to inclusion and more.

Learn in two episodes their origin story, Ace's thoughts on housing innovation, employee ownership and how to grow a company that consistently leads through example.

Plus in The Jazz Room we celebrate the Drummers! Host Joan Watson-Jones dedication to drummers. Though she did not have the pleasure of interviewing the great Roy Haynes who passed away last week, we have many of his friends to celebrate in this episode.