<p>Jim talks to Gabe about environmental resilience issues in Indiana, mainly Indianapolis. Urban heat, green insfrastructure, the White River.</p>

Rural energy: Cooperatives and public-owned utilities, with author Michelle Moore (Rural Renaissance, Revitalizing America's Hometowns through Clean Power. Island Press).

We're a podcast from Indiana University's Environmental Resilience Institute and The Media School. We're here to bring you the scientists working toward solutions, the legislation to watch and the ways you can remain resilient.