In this episode we talk with Dr. Vagdevi Meunier and Dr. Bill Bumberry about Gottman Method Therapy, a science-based approach to couples therapy. They describe the personal and professional journeys that led them to the model and vividly illustrate several key concepts, including the 4 Horsemen, flooding, and taking the positive perspective. Both are true experts in the field of couples therapy and have an incredible passion for helping couples, which shines through during the interview. Drs. Meunier and Bumberry are Certified Gottman Method Trainers and Consultants and Clinical Psychologists with over 50 years of combined experience. We met up with them during a seminar in Raleigh, NC.