One of the pleasures of my teaching and curatorial work, in Universities and Museums, has been welcoming young budding scholars to the table. Our research and thinking together has always been fruitful. Today’s conversation kicks off a series of conversations with young scholars on themes I have been privileged to work on with each of themIn the last number of months Calum McCracken has joined me in exploring the rise of Christian nationalism. Since I have always been a bit cautious in studying the diseases of religion, culture, and society not wanting to catch the infection I decided we would begin our work and this conversation considering the Civil Rights Movement that animated much of the 1960 and think about how religion was at play in the gifts it bequeathed to our society. We would then move on to thinking about how the same texts and narratives and similar theological ideas can also be at work in the rise of Christian Nationalism.