From being without goals, to defining goals, some bootstrap paradox to Pokemon, this episode is all about goals and its surroundings! In conversation with me are two awesome friends Ayush and Amul who also run the podcast - Ke Chha Ta? If you feel goalless, don't worry, we do too!In Conversation is a podcast about well, conversation!Music 'Stream of Consciousness' by Shaurya Kshatri.