Jamie Beachy's interreligious background as a former Christian minister with a deep interest in Buddhism and earth-based indigenous practices emerged through engaging the wisdom of care seekers, colleagues, students, and non-human relatives.  As the current director of  Naropa University's Center for Contemplative Chaplaincy Jamie teaches other care givers and healers how to care for themselves in this potentially exhausting path of work.

Among other topics, Andrew and David talk about how Jamie got to where she is in her life and career, as well as her work in more expansive understandings of Chaplaincy, care giving, and personal healing around trauma related wellness issues. Jamie is on the front lines of the up and coming science based healing movement centered around the use of psychedelics.