An honest conversation with two mums, Laura Mbugua-Mwaura, an American married to a Kenyan living in SA - raising two biracial boys and Joan Atiko, a Kenyan mum married to a German living in Switzerland. We discuss challenges and experiences of what it's like to parent biracial kids and how to encourage a strong sense of personal identity- in the background of all the racial stereotypes and systematic racism they may face.