Alexis and Erika speak with Head of Policy Unit, @CreativePEC and Creative Economy, @nesta_uk Eliza Easton.  Eliza talks about the data they are finding in regards to our creative consumption pre- and during COVID times. What has changed and what has stayed the same? Who is actually making policy and what are they looking to do? She also talks about the grants side of Nesta and how to apply as an artist. Alexis loses her mind about the Royal Academy/Michelangelo fiasco but what side does she fall? ELIZA RECOMMENDS: Ruskinland: How John Ruskin Shapes Our World (The Lives of the Artists) Lottie Davies, Photographer LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Eliza Easton - @elizaeaston Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com    Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com  Audio Engineering: - Alexander Rossi Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com   Email us: [email protected] Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/