Karl Vaters joins Tom and Sean to talk about his sabbatical experience. Karl worked with Sean to plan his sabbatical and he shares what that was like and how it helped his whole sabbatical. 
 
For more on Karl Vaters&#39; sabbatical listen to this episode on The Church Lobby Podcast:
<a href="https://karlvaters.com/podcast/">Ep 055: What I Learned By Taking A Sabbatical, with Karl Vaters</a>
https://megaphone.link/CHRTDY1587100718

74 - Hope in Contentious Times - David Henderson

Ministry life is challenging – to say the least. Many pastors need encouragement as they face a time of uncertainty, crisis, or transition. Drawing from the experience and wisdom of those who deeply care for the lives of pastors, their families, and the local church, these podcasts speak to many of the core issues facing today’s ministry leaders. Join the PIR Staff and others as they offer a message of Gospel hope as well as insights on how pastors can protect their future and guard their present.