Anthony Stepniak from the University of Northampton has a bunch of thoughts about how Hollywood moves on from the pandemic, what the arts scene will probably look like and spends 14 minutes not taking a selfie. It's a record for Anthony.

John wangs on about a podcasting forum on Facebook where you're not allowed to talk about your podcast and how much of a stretch is it to see Tangled as a prediction of the outbreak ? If we could show you some kind of graph of the stretchy continuum then it wouldn't be much of one.