On today's episode, we're joined by Holy Swift favorite Jemima Skelley to talk about Taylor Swift club nights, the meaning behind overly simple lyrics, and the song "ivy."

Episode 158 - marjorie (with Rob Sheffield)

Holy Swift is a weekly podcast where three Taylor Swift adult superfans (Jessica Zaleski, Krista Doyle, and Kelly Doyle) dissect the entire Swift discography (Swiftography?), song-by-song, in meticulous detail. But not, like, in a creepy way.