On this week's episode, we're joined by Kat Spada to talk about how much the world has changed since she was last on the show in 2016, romantic poets, and the song "the lakes."

Episode 137 - peace

Holy Swift is a weekly podcast where three Taylor Swift adult superfans (Jessica Zaleski, Krista Doyle, and Kelly Doyle) dissect the entire Swift discography (Swiftography?), song-by-song, in meticulous detail. But not, like, in a creepy way.