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Ageing

A conversation between a 20-something and a 50-something about art, culture, faith, justice, equality and life in general. Fiona Hollow and Fiona Stewart both work in the cultural sphere and are both Christians. One lives in Glasgow, the other in London. Hollow is 26 and Substantial is 50. What can one generation learn from the other?