Excerpt from Cameron's 2013 recording with Jason Fried, Co-Founder & CEO of 37signals. Here's what Jason had to say about focusing on the results of work rather than the number of people at work.

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Hired is a podcast hosted by Cameron Moll that ran for several seasons in 2013-2016. Although the original files for many of the episodes were lost, we've published full episodes or excerpts for the surviving episodes.