On today's episode, Josh and Lyndsay talk about the protests taking place across the country, followed by a discussion about the uncomfortable truths behind PT Barnum's history with race, circus, and entertainment. Later in the episode they call up Jeff Croiter, who recently designed the lighting for Beyond Babel among many other projects in theater, dance, circus, and opera. The conversation covers Jeff's career and many of the nuances behind creating memorable designs within a collaborative framework. If you enjoy the episode please share it with a friend. Stay safe and have a good week!