In this conversation, Jacob and Scott talk about what it means to hold space for others – and yourself – in an honest way, and how doing so elicits not only more depth of connection but also a more authentic and heart-centered response. They also discuss the importance of owning our hypocrisy, as Scott shares a story about his own blatant hypocrisy related to podcast reviews and ratings. They take a deep dive into their understanding of the soul, and the importance of connecting to the ever-present peacefulness of that soul-centered place within yourself, while at the same time honoring your very human humanity.

• Scott’s Detroit breathwork gatherings

Saturday, August 20th: https://saturdaybreath.eventbrite.com and Sunday, August 21st: https://sundaybreath.eventbrite.com

Scott’s online breathwork journey on Thursday, August 11th: https://onlinebreathing.eventbrite.com

• Grab Jacob's book, The Creative Cure, on Kindle for just 99¢ or equivalent in the US, Canada, UK, and Australia:

Audio or reading sample at https://www.CreativeCureBook.com