<p>Rachel and Mike talk about the messiness of grief, and about making art out of life.</p> <p><em>(Recorded November 26, 2025)</em></p> <h3><a href= "https://www.heyitsmepodcast.com/transcripts/episode-21">Transcript</a></h3> <h3>Show Notes</h3> <ul> <li><a href= "https://bookshop.org/p/books/art-work-on-the-creative-life-sally-mann/2ee5526648a37793?ean=9781419780714&next=t" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sally Mann - <em>Art Work: On the Creative Life</em></a></li> <li><a href= "https://bookshop.org/p/books/hold-still-a-memoir-with-photographs-sally-mann/cdaefede197e0282?ean=9780316247757&next=t" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sally Mann - <em>Hold Still: A Memoir with Photographs</em></a></li> <li><a href= "https://commonplace.today/commonplace-podcast/episode-130-conner" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>Commonplace</em> - Episode 130: Lois Conner</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.andischreiber.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Andi Schreiber</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.elizabethfleming.com/#1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elizabeth Fleming</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.katehutchinson.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Kate Hutchinson</a></li> <li><a href= "https://bookshop.org/p/books/my-friends-a-novel-fredrik-backman/7722f1d6dc24a4a6?ean=9781982112820&next=t" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fredrik Backman - <em>My Friends</em></a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.tumblr.com/greenycrimson/698034238826676224/why-do-you-people-feel-profound-thought-has-to" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tumblr - "The gutter looks at the stars too"</a></li> </ul>

A podcast in which two friends try to figure things out. Hosted by Rachel Zucker and Mike Sakasegawa.