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Corinna Cohn
Episode 195: Natalists, Outliers, and MAID for Podcasters with Meghan Daum
1 hour 36 minutes Posted Apr 24, 2026 at 6:19 pm.
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Writer, podcaster, teacher, thinker, public discourser, and friend of the pod’ Megan Daum joins the Dorx to discuss 80’s music trivia. After which we talk about natalism: pro, anti, soft anti-, demi-, and a-. How wrong was Paul Ehrlich? Is the Demographic Transition Theory true? How has our understanding of (over)population changed? Are people better off having kids? Who will wipe our butts when we get old? What wallpaper goes with suicide? Were we really that clever and interesting in our 20’s, or just cute? And most importantly, WHAT IF??

Links:

The Unspeakeasy podcast: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/

Unspeakeasy Retreats & Workshops: https://theunspeakeasy.com/

J. Geils Band: Centerfold

Peter and the Wolf

Unspekeasy Lionel Shriver interview: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/p/lionel-shrivers-most-problematic

Nina’s abandoned late 1990’s/early 2000 antinatalist documentary Thank You For Not Breeding:

Selfish, Shallow, and Self-Absorbed: https://www.meghandaum.com/selfish-shallow-self-absorbed

Paul Ehrlich: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00939-5

Demographic Transition Theory: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11618374/

Virginia Abernethy - Population Politics: https://www.routledge.com/Population-Politics-The-Choices-That-Shape-Our-Future/Abernethy-Hardin/p/book/9780765806031

Deluded and Immature by Nina (contains all the things I wanted to say on this podcast but didn’t): https://ninapaley.com/2022/10/04/deluded-and-immature/

The Baby Boon by Elinor Burkett: https://archive.org/details/babyboonhowfamil0000burk



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