Sean and Brett talk with their college friend and roommate Nick about cyberattacks, ransomware, and security. They discuss the differences in private companies and governments in their ability to scale security and create a culture around best practices. Next, Brett and Sean ask for Nick's opinions on China, foreign relations, and the two-facedness of American corporations. Brett presents his case that publicly we are questioning truths we've known and hashed out for centuries without understanding that others have thought deeply about these topics. They transition to a fun thought experiment about gambling your life for large sums of money. Finally, they discuss their personal living situations and how it feels to be a full-fledged land owner.