<p>We tell a heartwarming story and then special guest, Lyman Letgers (he&apos;s white) tells us how the church can solve racism.</p>

This is Uncomfortable

Heaven Help us is the Irreverent podcast at the intersection of faith, pop culture and politics. We are here to create safe avenues for honest conversation about the evolving Christian church, where it needs to go, and what it needs to do to truly be affective in the modern world.