In this episode, Trish interviews two of the several school counseling leaders who had the opportunity to influence, direct and update the school counselor training standards in California. Dr. Loretta Whitson Ed.D., Executive Director of the California Association of School Counselors (CASC) and Danielle Duarte, former CASC President and current student in the Harvard Doctoral program for educational leadership share their experience sitting on the panel and give insight on changes coming to school counseling credentialing in CA.