<p>Bruce and James chat with Barry Hawkins about software methodologies, their triumphs and abuses.</p>
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#41 "Never gonna give you up" (FP that is) with Wiem Zine Elabidine

No-frills discussions between Bruce Eckel and James Ward about programming, what it is, and what it should be.