BRAVE, STRANGE, AND TERRIBLY HUMAN — Jennifer Gilgoric went from skepticism to serving as Minister of Equity & Resources for Asgardia, the world’s first digital nation. In this episode she explains how a virtual embassy in Second Life, a payload on the moon, and a million-vote election reframed her view of entrepreneurship, law, and what “nation” can mean in the 21st century.Short description: Jennifer walks us through a seven-year journey that reads part sci‑fi, part civic experiment and entirely entrepreneurial. She shares the emotional moment when Asgardian names and likenesses were deposited on the moon, how she built the parliament intranet that still runs their government, and why the future of space is as much about lawyers and ethics as it is about rockets. This conversation is for founders, studio-builders, and curious citizens wondering how to hold power accountable when the next frontier is literally above our heads.