This is a discussion that was held on Clubhouse social audio App on April 28, 2023 based on my Substack article titled &quot;<a href="https://nathaliemartinekphd.substack.com/p/shame-is-your-ally-not-your-enemy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Shame is your ally, not your enemy</a>&quot;

Everything you want to know about power, control and hacking narcissism in any relationship.