In this episode, we catch up with Charl van der Walt (@charlvdwalt), Head Of Security Research at Orange Cyberdefense and one of the original founders of SensePost.We talk through the origins of how SensePost got started, what it was like to build a business over 20 plus years and eventually sell and become part of a much larger company. Charl also spoke about a personal topic he is driving around gettings organisations to think differently in their approach to gender diversity.