Todays podcast is with Joey McCormack and guest Brian Hacker. Brian joins us to talk about how getting into things as an adult creates a barrier of entry that not many people break through. We also dive into taking his first Surf Trip to Costa Rica.  Brian had some adulting things to do during recording so he had to split and will be back to continue the conversation.  Highlights: Brian talks about getting into surfing as an adult. How Point Break influenced us. (The Real Point Break)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102685/Brian and Joe talk favorite surf movies:  The Endless Summer 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109729/The September Sessions: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386016/Step into Liquid: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308508/The North Shore: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093648/Big Wednesday: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077235/ Traveling to Costa Rica for his first trip. Joey fishes the Waccamaw: https://www.fws.gov/refuge/waccamaw/Essence Surf: http://essencesurf.com William Finnegan: Barbarian days. A Surfing Life  https://www.amazon.com/Barbarian-Days-Surfing-William-Finnegan/dp/0143109391  Please leave us a rating and review and if you enjoyed todays podcast, please let us know in the comment section. As always, you can find us everywhere you listen to your podcasts as well as on YouTube and Instagram. https://linktr.ee/HackerOutdoorsJoey can be found on instagram at https://www.instagram.com/joeymccormack81/ .