We talk with Drew Davenport about Tom Waits, finding media that clicks with you at a formative time in your life, and the dangers of experimental folk music.

Guest plugs: Rules and Roles

Follow the show on Twitter: @treasurescast

Your hosts are Anne Kirn (@house_of_darkly) and Emily Kardamis (@corruptedgem).

Intro, outro, and interstitial music is "Welcome!" by RoccoW, used under Creative Commons.