We talk with Liz Anderson (Paired, Campaign, Autonomic) about My Chemical Romance, the music and art that grounds us, and shaking off the need to be "cool."

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Your hosts are Anne Kirn (@house_of_darkly) and Emily Kardamis (@corruptedgem).

Intro, outro, and interstitial music is "Welcome!" by RoccoW, used under Creative Commons.