We talk with Paloma Hernando about Tamora Pierce and her novels, the compelling nature of strong characterization, and how fantasy can open doors to new viewpoints.

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Your hosts are Anne Kirn (@house_of_darkly) and Emily Kardamis (@corruptedgem).

Intro, outro, and interstitial music is "Welcome!" by RoccoW, used under Creative Commons.