We talk with Travis McElroy (My Brother, My Brother and Me, The Adventure Zone, Shmanners, Trends Like These, Run: A Doctor Who Fancast, Positiviteeny!, The McElroy Brothers Will Be In Trolls 2, Surprisingly Nice, Till Death Do Us Blart, et al) about subterfuge games, the thrill of deduction, and remembering that it's just a game.

Follow the show on Twitter: @treasurescast

Your hosts are Anne Kirn (@house_of_darkly) and Emily Kardamis (@corruptedgem).

Intro, outro, and interstitial music is "Welcome!" by RoccoW, used under Creative Commons.