We interviewed Didi Kirsten Tatlow, a Senior Fellow in the Asia Program at the German Council on Foreign Relations, a Senior Non-Resident Fellow with Project Sinopsis, and the co-editor and co-author of a recent book, “China's Quest for Foreign Technology: Beyond Espionage." In a fascinating interview, Tatlow shares her thoughts on China's increasingly authoritarian approach to the Hong Kong protests, the potential implications of these tactics for Taiwan, and the role Western democracies can play in countering Chinese aggression.

Producers: Marshall Reid, Jack Liu

Hosts: Marshall Reid, Isabel Eliassen

Editor: Jack Liu

Music: Joseph Ross