If all else fails, there will always be dogs. Mae, Ned and guest host Sophie Duker are joined by wildlife biologist Lizzie Daly to talk all things furry and feathery. Ned is feline good, Sophie wants justice for black pets and Steve Ali tells us how tourists can make refugees feel like animals in a zoo. 
 
Co-created by Deborah Frances-White for The Spontaneity Shop and BBC Radio 4.Produced by Al RiddellMusic by Mark Hodge and Omahrose, produced by Nick Sheldon. 
 Featured in this programme: 
You &amp; Yours (23/03/2017)
Saturday Live (30/07/2016)

36. Movies

"Now I’m a grown up… do I have to get married? Do I have to scrimp and save?? Do I have to host a dinner party??? GrownUpLand poses the most frustrating questions. Luckily, Sophie Duker, Heidi Regan and Ned Sedgwick are here to guide you through the bewildering pursuit of adulthood.
 
Through stupid challenges, useful facts and personal stories of rich victory and miserable failure, your guides will ensure you don’t feel alone in your hopeless endeavour to be a legit grown up. Plus, every week a special guest candidly shares their experiences, from failed dates and drunken mistakes to moments of clarity and pet hates. And the very handsome Steve Ali, a refugee from Syria now a writer and silversmith in the UK, helps to put a listener’s dilemma into perspective.
 
Co-created by Deborah Frances-White for The Spontaneity Shop and BBC Radio 4.
 
Produced by Al Riddell."