In this episode of the Green Side Up Podcast, Jason Lee and co-host Jordan Upcavage sit down with Mark Cohen of Permaloc to explore how aluminum edging has reshaped the landscape and hardscape industry. Mark shares the origin story of Permaloc, founded by landscape architect Daniel Zwier as the pioneer of aluminum landscape edging, and explains why aluminum's strength-to-weight ratio, sustainability, and longevity make it a superior alternative to steel and plastic. The conversation digs into spec-driven selling, how educating landscape architects fuels national distribution, and the role of trade shows, ASLA/CSLA partnerships, and student events like Labash and NCLC in influencing the next generation of professionals. Jason and Jordan add real-world contractor perspective—contrasting plastic and concrete edging with aluminum, discussing paver restraint practices in Florida, and talking through evolving applications like resin-bound aggregate and tree ring surfacing. Along the way, Mark highlights iconic projects featuring Permaloc, from the Lady Diana Memorial Fountain to major civic and cultural sites, illustrating how a "niche" product quietly defines and protects some of the most recognizable landscapes in the world.

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