Want to discover your freedom in Christ? Then listen in as Mike Stone and Kevin Smith talk about it today on grace coach. Unknown Speaker 0:12 What's up, Mike? pillow? Kevin, we're gonna talk about one of our favorite topics. Absolutely eternal security. eternal security is the good news of the gospel. I love to know I'm secure. It is a foundational belief of the Christian faith. JOHN Calvin calls it the perseverance of the saints. Yes, if you just persevere in the Scriptures, as we'll do today, we're going to go through a lot of scriptures that talk about why once we're saved, we can never lose our salvation, aka eternal security. It's a great topic. I wish there were more pastors talking about this. And really, everything in the New Covenant is all about eternal security, and that once Christ comes a live inside of you, he'll never leave you again. Unknown Speaker 1:17 It is, without a doubt, one of the Unknown Speaker 1:23 best doctrines that you could live the Christian faith in, if you don't have clarity around this issue, your relationship with God will be topsy turvy, up and down a roller coaster ride. And if we can just encourage people today with the fact that they are eternally secure that their relationship with God is guaranteed by the deposit of the Holy Spirit. And as we're getting to get into some of the Scriptures, we can read them. But that is that is the fact the reason that you have the Holy Spirit is a deposit guaranteeing by God that you are Unknown Speaker 2:16 say that you are secure. Let's write a fusions Ephesians 113. And 14 says it like this, it says and you were included in Christ, when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, when you believed you are marked in him with a seal, the promise Holy Spirit, who just like you're saying Kevin is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are in guy's possession, to the praise of his glory. Wow, you know what I'm going to read from this systematic theology book that I have a gut from when I was a student at Moody Bible Institute. The Greek word translated in that verse guarantee is our baronne and is a legal and commercial term. That means the first installment deposit downpayment pledge and represents a payment which obligates a contracting party to make further payments. Unknown Speaker 3:26 All right, the contracting party in that then this agreement that we're talking about here is God and you and God is going to make further payments. Unknown Speaker 3:38 On this contracting, you no obligation, which is a beautiful thing, and that that further payment is going to be when we see him face to face, and we have glorified bodies and renewed spirits is going to be Unknown Speaker 3:59 incredible. Yes, it will be I can't wait. You know, with the excitement of eternal security, knowing we could hit that God will never leave us or forsake us ever against once we are born again, comes much controversy. I have met many pastors, and I've been in churches, hearing sermons, that you could lose your salvation, that you are not secure in Christ, that you could walk away from God. Walk away from the faith. Anyway, you say, there are those who say that you could lose Christ, once crisis living inside of you. But for a Christian to lose their salvation, Kevin, God would have to erase the mark on a Christian, withdraw his spirit, cancel the deposit that we just Unknown Speaker 5:00 Read was guaranteed to break his promise, why revoke the guarantee and the gift. And I love this keep his inheritance. Unknown Speaker 5:14 That's why this is such an important topic, it's important for Christians to know that they have that one, yes, always saved, and that they can never lose their salvation. Unknown Speaker 5:28 We Christians need to know that. And that's why we thought this topic is so important today in what you just read, Mike, we've got about 20 scriptures that we've come up with, that are all over the New Testament that basically encapsulate the thoughts that you just said. And it's, it's on, you know, pretty much you can't hardly ever look at, I mean, the parables that Jesus talked about, it's amazing when you just look at some of these things, through the lens of eternal security, that this is what Jesus was talking about, that you know, you are secure, I'm casting these branches out that never were part of the Divine, you know that that parable is part of just this whole thing that we're talking about. And so it's It is amazing that, like you're saying, the controversy that is out there, because it is a controversy that, I think that we want to say in the first here is that we are not here trying to say, we know who's a Christian and who's not a Christian, we're not saying who's in who's not in, it's more about a very personal thing, that each person can live their Christian life with this truth with this doctrine of eternal security. So, so we're not trying to say, Oh, you can go look at people and say that they did this, or they didn't do this. And they are in or they're not in. It's really at the death of a person that your eternal security is sealed. Because you could have some really an errant views. And we're all having our mind renewed as to the truth of the gospel. And we could be believing some stupid stuff. But God's not done with us yet. Unknown Speaker 7:39 You know, Kevin, apart from some of the Scriptures, that we're going to read just the word eternal, right? If it was not eternal, then it would be temporal, right? But the fact that, you know, john 316, whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. That's forever. Yes, no one believes that they can lose their salvation. They don't know what the word eternal means. Eternal means forever. Yes, for forever, no matter what. So I want to look at a few verses with you today, Kevin, john 637, to 40 are some of my favorite, it says that all those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me, I will never drive away. Unknown Speaker 8:37 Never means never, for I have come down from heaven, not to do my will, but to do the will of Him who sent me. And this is the will of Him who sent me that I shall lose none of those. He has given me. Right, rather raise them up. On the last day, just like you were saying, when Jesus comes back, either we're here and we're Ramsar to meet him in the year or we might have died before the rapture, and then we'll meet the Lord in the air also. That's the last day and he says, I will lose none of us, none of them, no matter what, no matter what. Absolutely. Unknown Speaker 9:25 I love verse 39. This is the will of Him who sent me that I should lose none of all those he has given me, the raise them up at the last day. So it's really about God and Jesus. Unknown Speaker 9:42 You know, not losing any of us in when we start saying, I am doing something to earn, maintain or establish my salvation, then we're going to be part of the the eternal equation, but when you understand Unknown Speaker 10:00 That it was a gift from God, and He secures it and maintains it just have to endure to the end is their understanding of salvation, Kevin, is that Jesus died for my sins and it stops there. Yes, then if I'm a born again, Christian, and my lifestyle is caught up in sin too much, I'm gonna think there's something wrong with me. There's something wrong with God, there's something wrong with the Word of God, because I'm trapped. I'm addicted. And I can't get out of this trap, amen. And I gonna walk away from God. And that's a person who might say, I was saved, and I am not. The problem is their understanding. Salvation is too small. Salvation is crossing over from spiritual depth of spiritual life. And Jesus comes to live inside of us. It's not about what we do and what we don't do. It's not about our sins. It's about that Jesus took away our sins and then rose from the dead and offers life to the spiritually dead. It's a yes, no complete message. It's a full message. And when you understand that, you won't struggle with eternal security, you won't struggle that your sins caused you to walk away from God. Yes, I think that is so true. Because we're when you do you just said, when you look at your sins, and we all sin, we all do things wrong. You know, we're not saying that we don't. But we're saying that those are not Unknown Speaker 11:49 those who had been done away with that, then forget Christ, Jesus Christ, you know, and so, yeah, we screw up every day. And that it's, we should be thankful for that that is done for us, and that our sins are forgiven, and that we have new life, that you know, sin is always going to be part of our experience. Anything is out of faith is sin. Right? And we can we can be do something not have faith. I mean, we talked about in our Bible study last week, and we really kind of nailed that out that you could do whatever you're doing when you're doing something stupid. It could be whatever you were believing something is going to give us, you know, happiness or joy or achievement. And you know, that's not we're not having faith, we're putting our faith in the wrong thing. Unknown Speaker 12:48 Right. But as we're, as you're saying, and we're talking about the fact that we will sin until we die, nobody has will ever stop sinning, we all anything. It's not a faith of sin. So we're all going to have that issue. But God is not going to leave us because of our sins. That's why he took away our sins, He sealed us with the Holy Spirit. And that because he took away our sins, the Spirit of God will never leave us. Never leave us know not only do people struggle with a too small understanding of salvation, their understanding of forgiveness isn't complete enough, either. You have to come to the point that you know that God is taken away your sins one time at the cross. Unknown Speaker 13:42 Yeah. Unknown Speaker 13:44 Let me read this little section to it's pretty cool. Unknown Speaker 13:47 It says, Peter tells his readers that they are those who by God's power are guarded through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. That's First Peter, one, five. And the word guarded is the Greek word throw can mean both kept from escaping and protected from attack. And perhaps both kinds of guarding are intended here. God is persevering believers from escaping out of his kingdom. And he is protecting them from external attacks. Well, that's right. And I'll tell you what 113 and one four says pray speed to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. In his great mercy. He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. And here's the key and into an inheritance that can never perish. That means eternal spoil Unknown Speaker 15:00 Fade. Yes. Just like you read this inheritance is kept in heaven for you for one day we will receive it. And we're guarded by God's power until the coming of the salvation Unknown Speaker 15:17 of Jesus. Yeah. I mean, let me restate that. I mean, we have eternal life right now, the moment we, you know, accept Christ as our Savior. We have our eternal life begins at that moment. That's right. When we get to heaven, we will have sanctified bodies, and we will be in God's presence for all eternity. Unknown Speaker 15:39 That's the that's the big deal there. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 15:42 Hey, I want to read john 1028. And 29. I love these two verses says, I give them eternal life. There it is, again, eternal life, not temporal life, and they shall never perish, never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand. Unknown Speaker 16:04 As sheezus speaking, right, then he says, 29, my father, who has given them to me is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my father's hand. Unknown Speaker 16:22 And that is basically one of the verses that anybody believes in eternal security. That's our flagship verse. You can't steal a Christian out of God's hand. Anybody who goes against that? I mean, it's just like, come on. Really? Unknown Speaker 16:42 That's right. How about he Burstein five Kevin, it says, keep your lives free from the love of money. Unknown Speaker 16:52 And 10 with what you have, because God has said, Never will I leave you. There's that word never again. Unknown Speaker 17:01 Never will I leave you never will I forsake you. Unknown Speaker 17:07 That's how I know. Christ will never leave me no matter what. Because the Word of God says that. Yes, I'm not going to look at the lives of people who may be they have struggle. And they have said, You know what, I walked away from God. My thought is, Unknown Speaker 17:27 they probably never were born again in the first place. But I can't know that you can't know that only God knows who's born again, who isn't. But I'm not going to look at the lives of people and make a doctrine out of this. I'm going to look at what the Word of God says, Never will I leave you never will I forsake you. So what he's saying is that we can't look at people who walk away from the faith and make a doctrine out of saying, Oh, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian. Now, I'm not a Christian, I'm not a Christian, and then say, base a doctrine that we can lose your salvation out of a person doing that. Yeah, he goes to bed that night. He's struggling, he says that he's a Christian, and then wakes up in the morning and says, I'm done. I'm not I don't want to be a Christian anymore. God, I'm done with you. So you go to bed a Christian, you wake up not a Christian. So what does God do? he withdraws his deposit, he keeps his inheritance. He does all those things we talked about earlier, he breaks his promise, he lies he revokes the guarantee all happened overnight. Unknown Speaker 18:44 So either that happened, or that person never came to put their faith in Christ. Now, they never had genuine faith, never agenda, and we don't know who has faith and who doesn't. It says in First Corinthians, no one knows the spirit of a man except for the Spirit of God. Right? So Unknown Speaker 19:07 I hope somebody who says they're born again they are, I just know that I know I'm born again. It's my relationship with God. It's not my spiritual relationship with people, although I have a relationship with people. He who has the sun as life, He who does not have the sun does not have life. Simple as that. And I think that's, you know, just re emphasize what you said is that, as you look at these verses, there's a lot of verses, you know, I don't know if we get to it today. time's going. But if you look at Hebrews six is a Unknown Speaker 19:45 big chapter that people say that you can walk away because it says, you know, once once you're enlightened, you've tasted the heavenly gift and, and you've kind of walked away and you have to understand those verses those parable. Unknown Speaker 20:00 Those stories as someone who's not genuinely had the saving faith, and that's really the only way you can do it. If you if you don't do that, then you're getting into deep weeds of putting it into a format or going off the deep end. That's right. Yeah. The big problem with the, when people read the book of Hebrews is they look at it and say that that was to Hebrew Christians, but that was to Hebrews. Some are saved, and some more. But it says in chapter five, that they were not acquainted with the teachings about righteousness. They were tasty. They tasted were enlightened. They shared, but they never swallowed, right goes on to say and six, the writer of Hebrews that I, I'm hoping a better things in your case, things that accompany salvation. But yeah, Hebrews six and 10 are the two verses that pastors will go to it to say that you can lose your salvation. And we are going to talk about those two verses on our next podcast, Kevin, in depth. Unknown Speaker 21:17 Part Two of eternal security coming up coming up coming at you. That's right. So it's just good news. I mean, I like to stick with this good news gives me great confidence, great joy, great piece to know that there's nothing I can do to separate myself from the love of God. That effect that's Romans 835 to 39 that nothing can separate us from the love of God. Nothing. Yes. And so deep, how deep? How wide. How expansive is the love of God. So amazing. 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