What should we DO with patriotic holidays in the church? Celebrate them? Mention the occasion in a pastoral prayer? Run for the hills? Bill and Sarah talk about the challenges of patriotic holidays and offer healthy ways to approach them. Get in touch: calledpodcast.com and calledpodcast@gmail.com

The One Thing You REALLY Need in Ministry (That You Didn't Learn in School)

For 50 years between them, Pastor Bill Smutz and musician Sarah Bereza have survived and thrived in churches big and small, urban and rural, good and not so good. With generous hearts and healthy boundaries, they share practical advice for church staff about working smart, cutting out the bs, and embracing the good in ministry. New episodes on 1st and 3rd Tuesdays.