Martin talks with Benoit Jacob about design beyond the pen.
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Audioblog 5: 3 concepts of how to (s)elect your future design leader

Launched in 2018, Gestalten has grown to become the authority podcast on automotive design.

Special guests include industry leaders from the world’s largest manufacturers and mobility design pioneers who are pushing boundaries to shape the future of transportation. Listen to live reviews from the show floors of the world’s biggest auto shows, and learn about the design philosophies and career paths of the industry’s top designers and engineers.