This week, Erik and Matthew welcome singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor and her brother Ryan to the show. This sibling duo talks about why they started their podcast Workin’ On It, and how we are still all works in progress. Meghan opens up about how motherhood has changed her, overcoming anxiety, living in her pregnancy pandemic bubble, and calls out Erik for ignoring her on Twitch. Ryan discusses his sobriety, and the group talks about the importance of therapy and learning how to say no.