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Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective
Gianni Russo: The Hollywood Godfather, Mafia Secrets
1 seconds Posted Dec 15, 2025 at 10:00 am.
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In this explosive episode of Gangland Wire, host Gary Jenkins sits down with actor, entrepreneur, and mob insider Gianni “Johnny” Russo, best known for his unforgettable role as Carlo Rizzi in The Godfather.
Russo pulls back the curtain on a lifetime of stories that stretch from Frank Costello and Joe Colombo to Las Vegas skimming, the Vatican Bank, Marilyn Monroe, Jimmy Hoffa, and even Pablo Escobar.
Russo discusses his new book, Mafia Secrets: Untold Tales from the Hollywood Godfather, co-written with Michael Benson—an unfiltered account of power, violence, politics, and survival inside the criminal underworld and Hollywood royalty. This is not recycled mythology—this is Gianni Russo’s personal version of history from the inside. Whether you believe every word or not, the stories are raw, violent, and utterly fascinating.
This episode discusses:
The Godfather, The Kennedy assassinations, Vegas skimming, Marilyn Monroe, Jimmy Hoffa, the Chicago Outfit, Pablo Escobar
🔥 Episode Highlights
🎬 How Gianni Russo REALLY Got Cast in The Godfather. Russo reveals that Joe Colombo personally helped secure his role. Paramount Studios negotiated directly with Colombo to avoid trouble. The real-life mob influence behind Carlo Rizzi's casting. Initially, James Caan was slated to play Michael Corleone
🏛️ Growing Up Under Frank Costello Russo describes how Costello became his protector. Living for decades in a Manhattan apartment, Costello employed him as an errand runner and messenger for influential mob figures
💰 Vegas Skimming & Vatican Money Laundering Russo details moving hundreds of millions of dollars through the Vatican Bank. How casino cash from Las Vegas was “cleaned” overseas, and how Chicago Outfit figures like Jackie Cerone were tied to the financial pipeline.
🎭 Marilyn Monroe, the Kennedys & a Dark Secret Russo claims Marilyn was pregnant with Bobby Kennedy’s child. The explosive fallout and her alleged assassination. Why her body would never reveal the truth, according to Russo. The mysterious death of journalist Dorothy Kilgallen
🚬 Jimmy Hoffa’s Fate Russo shares what he says is the real story about Hoffa’s murder, the crushing and disappearance of the body. Why Hoffa was marked for death after returning to union power
🔫 Pablo Escobar & the Vegas Casino Shooting Russo describes killing Pablo Escobar’s underboss in a self-defense shooting. The terrifying private meeting that followed—with Escobar himself, how respect between two men prevented a bloodbath
⚰️ Tony & Michael Spilotro: What Casino Got Wrong Russo disputes Scorsese’s version of the murders. First-hand account of seeing the brothers after their brutal beating. The real setup and why Tony Spilotro sealed his own fate
Mafia Secrets: Untold Tales from the Hollywood Godfather by Gianni Russo & Michael Benson
A memoir covering: The Mob, Hollywood, Politics Vatican corruption, Murder, betrayal, and survival 👉 Available now wherever books are sold
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Transcript
Speaker: Well, hey, are you wire tapper? It's good to be back here in the studio of Gangland Wire.
I have a guest today, which is, as you can see, if you're looking, it's, Johnny Russo. And I know a lot of you guys know Johnny. , He is, been a, a character, a mover in the shaker in this mob entertainment business for a long time. Starting with The Godfather, I think the first time we heard of him.
He, , somehow got selected for the part to get beat up by James Conn and earned the, the reputation of being a wifebeater. Now that was all fiction. You guys realize that was all fictionalized for the story. But anyhow, welcome Johnny. It's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 2: Always my man. So much fun.
Always. And I, the fact you're still doing it and you know, the intrigue of the mob is never going away.
Speaker: Never going away is it's just, it's gotten more in the last, I've been doing this for five, six years and it's gotten more and more each year. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah. The funniest thing you say that, most people don't know I own all the IP of the Godfather.[
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All the intellectual property.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like if all your listeners go on right now to quarterly own fine Italian foods.
Speaker: Uh,
Speaker 2: my, all my food. I'm in 83 countries, Gary.
Speaker: That's right. You got in the food business, didn't you? Crazy,
Speaker 2: crazy food business. I got in the liquor business. I, I mean, clothing. My, I mean, it's crazy.
My clothing line is called the mia. By Gianna. I try to keep everything in the mod mob feeling.
Speaker: Well now you got a new book out called Mafia Secrets, untold Tales from the Hollywood Godfather. And we're gonna talk a little bit about those mafia secrets, which that's what, you know, that's what we all wanna know.
We wanna know the secrets of mafia. That's think that's part of the, that's part of the, uh, j quo, the, uh. A little bit of something different. What we, what's, intriguing about the mafia is this code of erta and the secrets that they had tried to keep over the
Speaker 2: years. Well, you know, the situation with this, which book here that you're talking about, that this [
On, on the, one of the cove notes is Chei had it wrong in Casino.
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Because I was, I one of the highlights, one of the big chapters in here. It's pretty gory. I mean, we were just talking about Michael Benson Pryer going on. This guy is really a great graphic. Uh, writer and I mean, when he, when he's talking about killing somebody, you could smell the blood.
Speaker: Cool. That's what we like. Well, let's, let's talk just a little bit about your history, your background. You go clear back to Frank Costello when you were a kid in, in New York City. You grew up in New York. Right. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: In, in 73 when he died, he left it to me. I've been in this apartment 70, I've been in this apartment 71 years.
Speaker: On the Upper East Side, I guess. [
Speaker 2: Oh yeah,
Speaker: yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Like sit 16. I mean, it's ridiculous. People come and say, how did you, how could you afford it? I said, I can't. It was given to me.
Speaker: Really? Especially these days.
Speaker 2: Oh my
Speaker: God. Now you still living in New York City?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's my base. Yeah. I, I, I, I have a house in Sicily.
I've had for a while now. I bought different properties in different, where I like going.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then. I kept them all by made, I'm the only guy, even, even when I bought my boat, they said, that's gonna be a money pit that's gonna eat all your money up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I, I bought a boat when I was 21. I bought a Riva 148 foot Riva
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 2: And I was good friends with Grace Kelly. 'cause Grace was going to the Baran school right around the corner on 62nd Street.
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Well, I got to know all of these young actresses when they were just coming out. [
What happened? I, I got the boat and the boat had a slip in Monaco.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I used to go there April, stay on my boat for a couple of months, and then I gave it to the Carlton Hotel to lease out. I made money from that boat every year.
Speaker: I bet. And so it wasn't holding the water. You stuck money in, as we say,
that's what you always hear about a boat. So, uh, speaking of of money and money, you talked about money laundering for the Vatican. Now I heard a story here in Kansas City, bear with me. This guy gave, he wanted to buy a church. He gave like a million dollar. Donation and the only way they'd take it if he had it converted to gold, actual gold and he took it over to the Vatican.
Does that sound right to you?
Speaker 2: [
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker 2: So, so I did something new. I'll reveal it to your audience. I started buying diamonds.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Which they don't even reflect going through the machine. So I have a solid gold Davidoff cigar holder.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I put a hundred karats of diamonds. I put it in my suit jacket. I don't smoke. It goes right through the machine.
Speaker: Huh, interesting.
Speaker 2: I guess every drug dealer in the world is doing because
Speaker: it probably smell no problem.
Smell that cocaine going through the machine. Be all over that cocaine. Try that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I never took a drug. Thank God.
Speaker: Yeah, me neither. So I see in the background you got the Godfather. I mean this is, I [
You were the son-in-law of the Godfather and the brother-in-law to Son Corleone James. James Conn James Conn's character. How'd you get that part?
Speaker 2: I, I, I left the country for about three or four years after the Kennedy assassination. 'cause I, I mean,...