Gambling With an Edge
Gambling With an Edge
Bob Dancer & Richard Munchkin
Mark Billings: The Ultimate Edge — Beating Blackjack in the 1980s
47 minutes Posted Oct 28, 2026 at 7:29 pm.
]  Throwback episode context[02:03]  News about a structuring charge[04:31]  Munchkin’s brother, Jake, was asked if he was a card counter[07:04]  Introduction of Mark Billings, advantage player, and author of The Ultimate Edge[10:03]  Slicing and dicing hand cuts[12:12]  Shuffle tracking with computers[16:49]  The small world of card counting in Las Vegas and Atlantic City[18:25]  Sharing advantage play secrets[21:10]  Shuffle tracking computers in shoes[25:13]  Casino eavesdropping on in-room phone calls[27:45]  Building shoes for the computers[30:00]  Richard’s shoe making story[31:50]  The Ultimate Edge method, computers and video laws[38:34]  Does Mark feel like his teams caused device laws to change?[42:07]  How is blackjack different today?GWAE Episodes Referenced:https://youtu.be/Wj1DTHlkaIAhttps://youtu.be/PrrFP3-XwB0
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Mark Billings — author of The Ultimate Edge — joins Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin to talk about beating blackjack in the 1980s: shuffle tracking, hole-carding, and computers strapped to players' legs. Mark tells the stories behind the plays, from the "slicing and dicing" cut-card move to the shoe computer busted at the Desert Inn — including the gaming agent who went on TV and completely made up how they caught the team. Plus the time Richard's brother Jake had to stand up in a casino and swear he wasn't a card counter. Originally aired April 4, 2013.Show Notes[00:00]  Throwback episode context[02:03]  News about a structuring charge[04:31]  Munchkin’s brother, Jake, was asked if he was a card counter[07:04]  Introduction of Mark Billings, advantage player, and author of The Ultimate Edge[10:03]  Slicing and dicing hand cuts[12:12]  Shuffle tracking with computers[16:49]  The small world of card counting in Las Vegas and Atlantic City[18:25]  Sharing advantage play secrets[21:10]  Shuffle tracking computers in shoes[25:13]  Casino eavesdropping on in-room phone calls[27:45]  Building shoes for the computers[30:00]  Richard’s shoe making story[31:50]  The Ultimate Edge method, computers and video laws[38:34]  Does Mark feel like his teams caused device laws to change?[42:07]  How is blackjack different today?GWAE Episodes Referenced:https://youtu.be/Wj1DTHlkaIAhttps://youtu.be/PrrFP3-XwB0