Our second podcast episode! We managed to keep to the format of about 15 minutes, which is tricky for talkers like us.

Give a listen below or read the transcript online or as a PDF. You can also subscribe in Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Play, or via RSS feed.

Our intro/outro music is "Juparo" by Broke for Free licensed under CC-BY 3.0. Let us know what you think of this format in the comments below, on Twitter, or on Facebook!