Show notes
Wow, Season 1 of the Fruiting Bodies Podcast is winding down!! This is our last interview of the season. In Episode 10, we are joined by the inimitable Emmanuel Williams, who is a fellow Portlander, father, educator, advocate, and world class counter racism strategist. He also happens to be a childhood friend of Elan’s. Join us as we dive into an eye opening discussion that is essential for all of us, regardless of color, creed, or identity. In this episode we discuss healing the wounds of white supremacy, how to talk to people about racism, the historical facts that are missing from many conversations about race, growing up within religion, and much more. We are so excited to share this episode with you all. This is an important episode full of insights for listeners who want to better understand the Black experience or who have gone through major shifts on their spiritual paths. It left us wanting to quote the whole episode! Links mentioned in our conversation: Website: Emmanuelwilliams.coEmail: [email protected]Instagram: @emmanuelsince85Podcast: Sox and Sandals Podcast (found in all listening apps)Donations: Cashapp $emmanuelwilliams85What's in this episode:Emmanuel’s origin story (2:17)What it was like leaving Portland and moving back (3:44)The desire to make a difference (4:54)How he turned his podcast into a business (6:44)Know your enemy (8:18)Who Emmanuel serves (10:32)How to talk to people about racism (14:35)History repeats itself (21:40)Dismantling racism is a lifelong effort (23:33)What to do if people don’t want to talk about race (24:57)Learning more about yourself while podcasting (25:13)Spirituality of psychedelics (28:10)Life in the church, unlearning and relearning spiritual heritage (32:23)Researching Christianity and what he found (37:06)Emmanuel’s journey learning about being a Hebrew Israelite (38:27)What it was like learning about religion (41:31)Church: the only safe space for us (44:47)We need mutual respect and care in relationships (49:46)The journey to overcoming racism (50:00)Closing thoughts (1:00:00)What is your dreamy dream? (1:03:00)What is healing to you? (1:06:00)Where to find Emmanuel (1:08:00)Huge thank you to the incredible, unforgettable Emmanuel Williams for joining us. Follow him on Instagram at @emmanuelsince85And special thank you to the people behind the scenes who help make the Fruiting Bodies podcast possible. Be sure to send them some love! Podcast Manager, Sydney BoganStudio space, Mariah Makalapua & Medicine CollectiveEquipment & support, Joe Izzo from Conscious Cloud PodcastAll of our incredible volunteers, collaborators, and listenersStay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. Visit our website to find past show notes, join the conversation, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy.Thank you for supporting our shared mission!-Elan & Becca--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/fruitingbodies/support
