Heidi, Daniel, and David discuss Pope Leo's strong anti-war stance during his first Holy Week, and they explore the role of the USCCB in a recent Supreme Court decision about conversion therapy. Then Heidi interviews Aaron Robertson about the history of Black Catholics, with a focus on the history of Detroit.
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#2608 - President Trump's clashes with Pope Leo, Earth Day and ecospirituality, and an interview with Natalia Imperatori-Lee

Two theologians walk into a bar... No, seriously: This podcast is about the real world of politics and current events, seen through the lens of Catholic teaching and spirituality.  Your hosts, Fr. Dan Horan and David Dault, bring you a mix of perspectives, from Abbey Road to Metaphysical Graffiti. Dan is a Franciscan friar and Catholic priest. David is a radio producer and Catholic convert. They both have doctorates in theology. It is the best possible kind of nerdy.