In this episode, I talked with Yuan Jiang, an Australia-based China and Russia analyst, actively appeared in many international news platform like South China Morning Post (SCMP), The Diplomat, Global Times, China Daily, The National Interests etc. Recently, he wrote an interesting article at the Diplomat titled “The Continuing Mystery of the Belt and Road”.Therefore, I asked him why does he think that BRI is a mysterious China's policy narratives? How does he see the outlook of BRI at the post-COVID-19 time when countries in the region are going to pursue economic recovery? What does he mean by saying that BRI is a constantly changing group of policy settings? And also to what extent the changing leadership in the United States will affect the future BRI projects and implementation?