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Today’s guest is Line Gordon, the newly appointed director of the Stockholm Resilience Center – EAT’s scientific partner. We talked to Line about why water is the “bloodstream of the biosphere”, the power of consumers and how we need to adjust our eating habits to make them both healthier and sustainable. However, Line is not a believer in cutting meat and dairy out altogether. Livestock has an important role to play in our food system, both from a livelihood and a biodiversity perspective. Instead, she recommends what she calls The Good Shift, key words for which are quality, culture and culinary innovators.