Steve talks to Josh Kaiser, former pastor turned deconstruction coach, about the different places people tend to end up at the end of their deconstruction / faith journeys (if there even is an end). Josh has a lot of wisdom and insight to this whole crazy process, so be sure to give this one your time.

• Josh Kaiser’s TikTok: @theLocalHeretic
• Origen
• Jerome
• Justin Matyr
• Augustine
• Mark Driscoll
• Vivant Life Coaching
• Brewery Vivant
• Christian Mysticism
• Josh’s video about mysticism
• John Philip Newell
• Cognitive Dissonance
• Pete Enns
• The Bible for Normal People
• Richard Rohr
• Film: “Ghandi”
• Hymn: “O Sacred Head”
• Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality
• Annihilationism
• Podcast: The Local Heretic Live
• Thomas Merton
• Book: “The Naked Now” by Richard Rohr
• Book: “The Universal Christ”
• Book:“Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps”
• Books by John Philip Newell

All of our music is by Daniel Wheat:

• Find more music and merch at his Bandcamp
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• And listen on Spotify

Special Guest: Josh Kaiser.

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