Following the Fire
Following the Fire
Following The Fire
2: Gnats & Camels: Pros and cons of growing up in the Church of Christ
1 hour 15 minutes Posted Mar 3, 2021 at 2:00 pm.
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-41 — Whoever is not against us is for usMatthew 7:2 — For in the same way you judge others, you will be judgedHosea 6:6 — For I desire mercy, not sacrificeMatthew 23:24 — You strain out a gnat but swallow a camelCommand, Example, Necessary InferenceLuke 10:36-37 — Who's my neighbor?John 17:20-23 — Jesus praying in the garden for unity Matthew 6:9-13 — The Lord's Prayer is a great alignment tool
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Today we’ll be talking a bit about how growing up in the Churches of Christ impacted our faith. And to all of our friends and family in the Churches of Christ, hopefully this episode will be less awkward to listen to than it was for us to record it.
Show Notes:
Intro -
Bike rides were taken
Nathan is "way behind on a bunch of stuff"
Very generalized and incomplete intro to the "Church of Christ" -
Talking about the "Church of Christ" is hard because they're independent
It is part of the "Restoration Movement"
Similar to, but not exactly the same as the "Reformation Movement"
The goal: Get back to Jesus and measure ourselves against that
Nathan lists of some standard Church of Christ tentpoles
Steve's history with the Church of Christ -
Very long family history with the "churches of Christ"
Exclusivist terminology is common (i.e., "we are THE church") but not universal
Only going to a C of C, you miss a lot of perspective
Steve's realization: Churches of Christ are not the only Christians who are earnestly trying to follow God
Vintage City Church in Fort Collins
Things Nathan felt were important or that he accidentally learned -
He was accidentally taught a lot of things (i.e., instrumental music in worship)
Gut reactions can be powerful! They bypass the brain
Happens often when it's "not the way you grew up"
Defining ourselves -
"If we define ourselves as 'not like other churches' we'll define ourselves out of existence." - Curt Niccum
"Whoever is not against us is for us" - Mark
" For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged" - Matthew
Wanting to "do church right" can distract from following God
"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice" - Hosea
"You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel." - Matthew
How we got here
Hermeneutics
Command, Example, Necessary Inference
"Who's my neighbor?" - Luke
We've focused too much on Sunday morning
The unity that Jesus wanted? -
Churches of Christ don't have the monopoly on "right"
Emphasis needs to shift from differences to commonalities
Jesus praying in the garden for unity - John
We can easily build our identity on things that are NOT God
We've all gotten it wrong, and we still do
All of this requires a lot of humility & grace
Am I pleasing God and following him, or just trying to "do the right thing"
The Lord's Prayer is a great alignment tool - Matthew
When we go back to church, we hope we don't fall back in to old, unhelpful, patterns
Be defined by who you're going toward, not who we're going against
Wrap up -
The Superbowl is on - Nathan doesn't "even want to talk about it"
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9:38-41 — Whoever is not against us is for usMatthew 7:2 — For in the same way you judge others, you will be judgedHosea 6:6 — For I desire mercy, not sacrificeMatthew 23:24 — You strain out a gnat but swallow a camelCommand, Example, Necessary InferenceLuke 10:36-37 — Who's my neighbor?John 17:20-23 — Jesus praying in the garden for unity Matthew 6:9-13 — The Lord's Prayer is a great alignment tool