On hour two of Flames Talk, Pat Steinberg and Wes Gilbertson take stock of the state of the Flames as the calendar flips to December. Do they still have a chance of making the playoffs? Are they going to start moving off of veterans? And when is the right time to start taking calls on some of the team's top assets?() Pat and Wes gauge how Flames fans are feeling as the text line chimes in on when the right time to start potentially selling off veterans is!