In this episode I speak with my friend Paul Knapp from Proud Scout. We go on and on about the Nashville music scene, corporate music jobs, the wants needs and desires of people who need to play music, and smashing toilets at punk shows.

I was very lucky to record this in person but guess who is still learning how to record! this guy

Can you hear that dog in the background? Who forgot about that during editing? this guy

Who had a blast talking to his bud about the DIY scene? this guy