CJ Liu interviews John Perkins (johnperkins.org) about his book "Touching the Jaguar: Transforming Fear Into Action to Change Your Life and the World." After John's life was saved by a Shaur Shaman who took him on a Shamanic journey to meet a jaguar, he was asked to become an apprentice for the Shaman. The Shaman had foreseen in a dream that in order to create environmental change that he needed to reach out to someone like John.<br /><br />Fire It Up With CJ Podcast is brought to you by Talk 4 Podcasting (<a href="http://www.talk4podcasting.com/)" rel="noopener">www.talk4podcasting.com/)</a> on the Talk 4 Media Network (<a href="http://www.talk4media.com" rel="noopener">www.talk4media.com</a>).

Agents of Change Revolutionaries  Part 3 of 4

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